Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!vaxine!wjh12!genrad!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!drutx!houxe!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!floyd!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!darrelj From: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re: INFO-MAC Articles - 3 of 8 Message-ID: <1105@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Jun-84 00:23:06 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.1105 Posted: Fri Jun 1 00:23:06 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 28-May-84 05:43:48 EDT References: <370@drutx.UUCP> Reply-To: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) Organization: System Development Corporation, Santa Monica Lines: 27 Apparently some (non Mac users) are complaining of a lack of META, ESCAPE and arrow keys to use with EMACS on a MACterminal. I'm not a macuser, but I heavily use a similar interface constantly on a Xerox lisp machine. Emacs is my main editor on VAX unix, and I use it both from ordinary terminals (so I know and use most of the arcane keybindings) and from a virtual terminal on Ethernet in a Lisp window. On the Lisp machine I do most of my cursor movements, scrolling, gross positioning and commands with the mouse, not from the keyboard. I move a few characters from the keyboard, anything longer with the mouse, including scrolling (both by number of lines and percent of file). Most of the commands I use are on menus surrounding the "terminal". Emacs has so (damn) many commands to provide lots of flexibility. The mouse subsumes most of them with a small set of paradigms. (By the way, it took only a few dozens of lines of lines of code in each of the Lisp machine and emacs to make it work. The programability of Emacs is quite worthwhile [for wizards, anyway]). (clue to value of the mouse [to me]: it's got the only uncluttered square foot of surface area in my office) -- Darrel J. Van Buer, PhD System Development Corp. 2500 Colorado Ave Santa Monica, CA 90406 (213)820-4111 x5449 ...{allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,sdccsu3,trw-unix}!sdcrdcf!darrelj VANBUER@USC-ECL.ARPA