Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site analog.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!analog!kim From: kim@analog.UUCP (Kim Helliwell ) Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: JEP vs MAC Message-ID: <131@analog.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-May-84 16:00:37 EDT Article-I.D.: analog.131 Posted: Fri May 25 16:00:37 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Jun-84 05:00:01 EDT Organization: Analog Design Tools, Menlo Park, Ca. Lines: 44 After reading the recent postings of INFO MAC traffic (for which I thank the poster) I can't help but respond to the tantrums of Jerry Pournelle regarding the Mac. (perhaps at the risk of repeating some things already said.) Jerry appears to me to have evaluated so many pieces of hardware and software and looked so much at the flaws and problems of everything that comes into his hands, that he is losing the objectivity to see the good points. He is definitely at his best when he is fighting the Good Fight against venal software vendors for shoddy documentation, poor support, intimidating license agreements, and vile copy protection schemes, and I cheer him for those efforts. But it is possible that he has become so negative about the efforts of the industry (or, perhaps, certain players therein) that he is unwilling to see the good in anything as well hyped (and, admittedly, over-hyped) as the Macintosh. I seem to remember that when the IBM PC first came out (and it was pretty well hyped, too, if I recall correctly), it didn't have very much in the way of either software or peripherals available for it, and IBM was quoted as saying that certain very desirable peripherals, for example, would be supplied by independent manufacturers. Ditto for much of the desirable software. And lo, now 2 years later, that has all come to pass, perhaps with a vengeance. So it isn't very surprising that Apple would do the same sort of thing with the Mac. This sort of thing is common in the entire computer industry (e.g. witness the history of DEC's VAX), and is nothing to get alarmed about, in my opinion, UNLESS the Mac totally bombs commercially. I think it is significant that Jerry acquired a Mac in the first three months of its existence, but he waited until the PC was about 1.5 years old and had LOTS of hardware add-ons, support, and software available before he bought one and reviewed it. Fairness would dictate that he at least wait a year before seriously reviewing the Mac. Let's compare apples with apples (or with IBM's, on an equal footing). I really enjoy Jerry's BYTE columns, and read them even when I read nothing else in BYTE. I expect to continue to enjoy them, but I will take what he says with a grain of salt. I will be interested in what he has to say about the Mac in his column, as opposed to what he said in this forum. The question of the hour is, "will he tone it down, any?" Kim Helliwell hplabs!analog!kim