Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihu1g.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!ihu1g!fish From: fish@ihu1g.UUCP (Bob Fishell) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.legal Subject: Re: Password hacker gets probation (& other electronic crimes) Message-ID: <310@ihu1g.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-May-84 14:44:39 EDT Article-I.D.: ihu1g.310 Posted: Wed May 2 14:44:39 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 3-May-84 19:34:10 EDT References: <90@tilt.UUCP>, <308@ihu1g.UUCP> <822@ihuxw.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 27 (oo) "oooh, lord, don't let me be misunderstood..." Equating a computer breakin by an amateur to breaking into a house by a burglar is a false analogy. Most "password hackers," as it was put, are interested in mischief and the personal satisfaction of having beaten somebody's system. It's an elaborate game. Burglars, on the other hand, are usually interested in more than breaking into the house and leaving a calling card on the mantle. Rather, they're interested in taking something that doesn't belong to them. I stand by my original position; if an enterprise doesn't want to take the trouble of implementing effective security measures, people who break into their computers shouldn't be severely punished! It's kind of like leaving your keys in the car; in most places, if some kid comes along and takes it for a joy ride, the law will hold the careless owner partly responsible for the crime. It's another matter entirely if the same kid breaks into the car and yanks the ignition lock with a slide hammer. Likewise, if a computer enterprise has an effective security system, it will take more than a computer brat with an Apple II and an autodial modem to break into it. Somebody going to that kind of trouble to get into a computer probably is motivated by something a little more worldly than electronic mischief. -- Bob Fishell ihnp4!ihu1g!fish