Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pucc-i Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!CS-Mordred!Pucc-H:Pucc-I:ags From: ags@pucc-i (Seaman) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.misc,net.religion Subject: Re: objections to humanism Message-ID: <258@pucc-i> Date: Mon, 30-Apr-84 16:09:13 EDT Article-I.D.: pucc-i.258 Posted: Mon Apr 30 16:09:13 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 4-May-84 00:37:58 EDT References: <253@pucc-i> <709@shark.UUCP> Organization: Purdue University Computing Center Lines: 22 Two follow-ups to my earlier posting in which I pointed out that most Nazis considered themselves Christians: 1. It was not my intention to blame the Holocaust on Christianity. I was merely pointing out the flaw in the argument raised by Martillo, who said that a Nazi could have considered himself a humanist (with the implication that this was a defect in humanism, rather than in the Nazi). 2. Predictably, the objection has been raised that a Nazi could not REALLY have been a Christian, even if he considered himself one. This is fine with me, as long as you apply the criterion uniformly to humanists, Jews, Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, .... As long as it is understood that Christianity is not special, deserving a different set of criteria than other religions/value systems, the only problem is that you can no longer take anyone's word as to his/her true beliefs. Who is to judge? -- Dave Seaman ..!pur-ee!pucc-i:ags "Against people who give vent to their loquacity by extraneous bombastic circumlocution."