Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxq.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!mcnc!decvax!harpo!ulysses!mhuxl!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihuxq!ken From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow) Newsgroups: net.followup,net.misc Subject: Re: Censorship: A Case History (part 5, 6 Mar 84 to 2 Apr 84) Message-ID: <932@ihuxq.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-May-84 20:01:28 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxq.932 Posted: Mon May 14 20:01:28 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 16-May-84 07:25:30 EDT References: <7190@unc.UUCP>, <258@heurikon.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 43 -- >> Gads!!! Either I'm an old-timer or else the academic world sure has >> changed! I must commend Brooks for his (initial) patience with Maroney. >> Anywhere else, and certainly in the "real" business world, unc!tim would >> never have been allowed to drag out this issue as far as he did. I bend >> over backwards to consider an employee's grievance, but I would have >> thrown Maroney out at first base if he carried on here as he did at UNC. >> He sees the issue as censorship. I think it boils down to some form of >> paranoia and a perceived *right* to be on the net... >> Jeffrey Mattox, Heurikon Corp, Madison, WI I'm sure glad I don't work for you, Jeff, although the feeling would probably be mutual. (Too bad, too, I lived in Madison for 12 years, think about settling down there some day..) What made my skin crawl was (1) how Tim's employers never stated to his face what he did wrong, and (2) how quick so many of his cohorts were to turn him in. The religious analogy, considering the anti-biblical-god musings that were probably at the root of this, is ironic. Sure, Tim has no *right* to the net. It's not a matter of rights-- UNC could probably get away with an 8x10 cell and 3 meals a day--I think that's all the Geneva Convention requires for POW's, but then you have to think about what kind of outfit they're running. One assumes that Tim is busting his buns to get something up, and access to the net is a nice way of showing appreciation. So we're down to management philosophies--goody. Sir Thomas Beecham was a brilliant conductor who, unlike martinets like Toscannini, never disciplined his orchestras. When asked how he achieved such marvelous results, he said: "WHY, I SIMPLY HIRE THE BEST MUSICIANS, AND LET THEM PLAY." Think about it, Jeff. -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 14 May 84 [25 Floreal An CXCII] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7261 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!ihuxq!ken *** ***