Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gatech.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!gatech!spaf From: spaf@gatech.UUCP (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: net.followup,net.misc Subject: Re: Censorship: A Case History (part 5, 6 Mar 84 to 2 Apr 84) Message-ID: <7300@gatech.UUCP> Date: Wed, 16-May-84 16:41:28 EDT Article-I.D.: gatech.7300 Posted: Wed May 16 16:41:28 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 17-May-84 07:14:32 EDT References: <7190@unc.UUCP>, <258@heurikon.UUCP>, <932@ihuxq.UUCP> Organization: The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech Lines: 54 Does anyone have part 6 of the Maroney Case History? Were there any parts beyond 6? A rather large number of cancellation messages found their way onto the net a few scant hours after the original articles were posted. I suspect they were done by the system administration at UNC rather than by Tim himself. I was going to read the articles when I got into school the next morning, but found that most of the postings were lost. Perhaps that's why Tim posted separate copies to multiple groups...? Censorship on the net is not new. There are a number of sites on the net where news and even mail is censored. One friend of mine was recently telling me about the major company where he works (which shall remain unamed) where one of the major bozos not only censors incoming and outgoing news, he also reads mail. At this site, they are so paranoid about "security" that they have locked up virtually every directory in the system. For instance, you have to find a privileged operator to run an "lpq" command. You also cannot run the normal csh because the bin directories aren't readable and the shell cannot form the command hash list. And the ".." directory is unreadable on user accounts. And so on. This is pretty amazing at a major company whose name is known to all of us. I believe that the person responsible for each site has a certain amount of responsibility to deny users access to the net if they abuse their privilege of access. Note that I said "privilege." There is no right to net access. If I were administering a machine, and I was aware of someone abusing their privilege, I would take appropriate action. However, I would definitely observe some simple rules of fairness and due process. Tim's case *appears* to be one of arbitrary action compounded by some personal motives. The items that Tim posted make the UNC administration appear to be somewhat arbitrary and petty in their decisions. It also appears as if Tim was denied due process. I, for one, will not attempt to either defend Tim or condemn the administration at UNC. Only one side of the story has been partially told, and every story has at least two sides. Still, I think Tim could have used better judgement. In fact, I think everybody involved might have benefitted from a little more restraint. Consulting an unbiased, outside mediator might have been a good step. Tim has always impressed me as a bright, although sometimes too hasty, individual; I wish him well wherever he may be. On the other hand, the only impression I have of Mr. Brooks at UNC is through this incident, and that impression is not entirely favorable. This is a very good example of a conflict with no winners -- only losers. Let's hope we don't see any more cases like this on the net. Let's all try to remember that privilege implies responsibility. -- Off the Wall of Gene Spafford The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 CSNet: Spaf @ GATech ARPA: Spaf%GATech @ CSNet-Relay uucp: ...!{akgua,allegra,ihnp4,masscomp,ut-ngp}!gatech!spaf ...!{rlgvax,sb1,uf-cgrl,unmvax,ut-sally}!gatech!spaf