Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!daemon From: daemon@watmath.UUCP Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re saquiqly Message-ID: <7868@watmath.UUCP> Date: Sun, 27-May-84 06:46:44 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.7868 Posted: Sun May 27 06:46:44 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 31-May-84 23:43:16 EDT Sender: daemon@watmath.UUCP Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 39 Subject: Re saquiqly : net.motss > "Probably because it wasn't really relevant to the situation." True enough, but then come to think of it I was told absolutely nothing about him (his job/other work or qualifications) but just expected to swallow his existence and relevence to computer science with a line like: "Turing came up with idea that .... blah blah blah" with the prof knowing full well that throughout my career I will be seeing vague awe-struck references to this "genius". Why should I believe he's a genius, I was told nothing about him other than his one idea. Why does his name keep creeping up as if people were expected to be totally familiar with his work? This touches on my vague uneasiness about the education system that shovels bare skeletons of information into students without any historical, or sociological background. Turings gayness could very well had impact on his work, he was "discovered" at the height of his career and one wonders how this affected the "system" in guiding his research. I quote the Body Politic: "...his efforts to meet men legally in Europe were obstructed by British security, which had no love for homosexuals who took their knowlege of state secrets to gay meeting places on the continent. In June 1954, without warning, Alan Turing dipped an apple in cyanide, bit it, and died." I realize that there isn't time for trivia in course-work, but I feel that more time should be given over to "backgrounding" people and events to encourage independent reading and thought. By the way, thankyou for reminding me about Oscar Wilde. There is some belief that Tchaikowski's gayness may have guided some of his musical compositions (or rather, life within Russian society as a closet gay) but none of the conventional education system told me this, I discovered it by accident during some research into Russian composers. - Ken Dykes Software Development Group, University of Waterloo Waterloo, Ontario, Ca<>