Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site csu-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!floyd!cmcl2!seismo!hao!denelcor!csu-cs!arnold From: arnold@csu-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.movies Subject: Teen Movies (good and bad) Message-ID: <2551@csu-cs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-May-84 05:55:19 EDT Article-I.D.: csu-cs.2551 Posted: Wed May 9 05:55:19 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 12-May-84 12:22:39 EDT Organization: Colo. St Univ, C.S. Dpt. Lines: 57 I think it is high time for a new topic for this group. I've come up with just such a topic: Teen Movies. Why don't we start with our favorites and why or our most hated and why. I can't wait for some of the responses from this article, I can hear the film-snobs now. Please, if you think you're above the conversation, stop reading and move to something else. As for my favorite, I have two. First is "Valley Girl," the second is "The Last American Virgin." My reasons are simple, both films have good character development and good acting. It is rare to find yourself caring about actors in teen films since there is so little character development, and what development there is will quickly be extinguished by bad acting. These two films are exceptions to the empty-headed-plot. Valley Girl is an excellent look at various social groups, peer pressure and fad, all three of which are integral parts of the teenage world. I liked the romance that developed and the problems associated with it. What mainly appealed to me was the idea that a relationship can transcend social bounds (a valuable lesson for teenagers). The Last American Virgin is a teenage tragedy. It centers around something that seems to be on a teenagers mind (and older people :-) quite a bit, sex. But it isn't the mindless romp that we find in other trashy films (see below), but a comic examination with serious overtones. The hero likes his best friend's girlfriend. The audience knows that Gary (the hero) likes Karen much more than his friend, but as usual, Karen doesn't see this. The films carries serious overtones with the abortion that Gary finances for Karen (although he wasn't responsible for the pregnancy). We get a vivid look at how society treats abortion and sex. And just when it looks like Gary and Karen will get together, Karen goes back to Gary's friend. The movie ends in a vivid scene with Gary seeing Karen and his friend making out, they see him and look at him with sadness, Gary gets in his car and drives away (sad music in background). Good film. As for the worst, it is much more difficult to say. There are so many bad teenage films that it would be tough to pick a winner. A few bad ones that come to mind include; Where the Boys are 84, Spring Break, every mad slasher film ever made (except for Psycho), the list goes on and on. In my opinion the worst would have to be Porkeys. This film is plain ****. We don't give a damn about any of the characters from PeeWee to Meat (descriptive names, having to do with their brains :-). I'm embarrassed to say I saw this film. There is no character development. The plot consists of a bunch of guys out to get their jollies off. They peek in the womens showers, they go to Porkeys, one of them passes out in a bowl of something, etc.... It is one brainless scene after another. I always measure a film by whether or not I cared about the characters and the story. In this case I hated the characters and thought the story the worst. I know there are lots of bad ones that I missed, thank god! I can't wait for the replies on this one. I see it grouping into two distinct types, the snobs who hate all teenage films, and the people who are honest to say they saw something as bad as Porkeys. Honorable mention for a pretty good teenage film goes to "Fast Times at Ridgemont High." "No way man, that place has been off limits ever since Big Earl smoked Angeldust and ate my Mom's parakeet" Ed Arnold {hplabs,hpfcla,unmvax,hao,denelcor} (csu-cs!arnold) Colorado State University Ft. Collins, Colorado