Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!decvax!decwrl!rhea!delphi!malik From: malik@delphi.DEC (Karl Malik ZK01-1/F22 1-1440) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: cage comments Message-ID: <7561@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 1-May-84 13:48:49 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.7561 Posted: Tue May 1 13:48:49 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 2-May-84 05:43:53 EDT Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 23 Subj; Short response re; John Cage Rich Rosen's comment - "P.S. About that minimalism discussion re John Cage. Cage is one of the biggest artistic charlatans of our age, who has made the resulting sensual result of the artist's work less important than the "artist's conception and ideas". Utter poppycock!! There, more discussion of classical music!! (Well, of a supposed classical musician, anyway...)" My response - My understanding of Cage's work, leads me to believe that you have things backwards. By using chance procedures (flipping coins, using the imperfections on the paper, consulting the I CHING), Cage assures that NONE of his ideas, conceptions, emotions, etc. come through. The result is pure SOUND - devoid of both expressive and intellectual manipulation. - Karl p.s. Why am I getting both net.music and net.music.classical even though I have not yet subcribed to net.music.classical?