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From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Re: On classical separatism
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Date: Wed, 9-May-84 00:34:39 EDT
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Posted: Wed May  9 00:34:39 1984
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>> Ah, the ever amusing typo: Ken Perlow has suggested that the
>> poster of this article is engaging in "spacious logic." I shall
>> have to ring up my modal (model?) logician pals and regale them
>> with that....

>> But seriously. The suggestion is that there is a serious error
>> in not separating the products of culture from the processes...
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>> g(Adrian Leverkuhn's music was boring, but i enjoyed his friend Thomas
>> very much)taylor@cornell
>> "

Well, yes, hahaha.  Taylor spent about 80 lines on the fine points
of Western "fine arts", and how they mirror society, etc, etc, and
the elitism of arbitrary distinctions.  But his comment about the
typo is the only one written snappily enough to bear repeating.
The rest of his philosophy lecture displayed just the sort of
dress-to-impress snobbery--the "I'm right, so you must be wrong, you
stupid twit you can't even spell" school--he accuses the classical
enthusiast of.  I don't understand why he chose this very white, male,
Western European idiom to make his excruciatingly well-reasoned points,
since he's down on art forms that don't exhibit affirmative action.

Western European music is a lot deeper than symphony orchestras and
coats-and-ties-only.  If you go back far enough, for instance, you find
the beat to which such curiosities as capitalism and the scientific
method were invented. 

Of course, the proof of the art is something to say.  That's why I
like both William Byrd and Frank Zappa, late Beethoven and early
Dylan.  I suppose I should be embarrased because all four of them
are/were white men, but I think I'll put another record on the Victrola,
or better yet, make anothar typo!
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