Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site tekecs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!mcnc!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!bmcg!cepu!trwrba!trwrb!sdcrdcf!hplabs!tektronix!orca!tekecs!jeffw From: jeffw@tekecs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.music,net.music.classical Subject: As long as we're talking about Cage... Message-ID: <3745@tekecs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-May-84 16:44:29 EDT Article-I.D.: tekecs.3745 Posted: Wed May 2 16:44:29 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 6-May-84 00:46:33 EDT Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 28 Karl Malik rightly pointed out that the object of Cage's work (let's defer the use of the term "music" for now) is pure sound - free of emotional or intellectual manipulation. Also free of emotional or intellectual content. And therefore interest. Now, I am admittedly biased, but I think Cage's work has attraction for two reasons: 1. There is a certain segment of humanity that can watch (or listen to) random patterns for hours (well, maybe half-hours) on end and remain captivated. 2. There is another group which will flock to any public figure who so much as mumbles about some kind of Eastern philosophy. I know virtually nothing about Zen, but I have grave suspicions that Cage doesn't really know much more. Anyone have more than an opinion on this? I believe that music should communicate some sense of beauty to its listeners. That doesn't mean "prettiness"; it doesn't rule out violence or perversity (for example, Strauss's "Salome" and "Elektra"). Pure randomness is, by definition, communication of nothing. The people in 1. are receiving no communication, they're merely being hypnotized. I think Cage's work is too close to this to be called music. Now, I can think of at least one counter-argument to this, but I think I'll see if anyone who believes it more than I will post it. Jeff Winslow