Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site olivej.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!oliveb!olivej!greg From: greg@olivej.UUCP (Greg Paley) Newsgroups: net.music,net.music.classical Subject: Re: Composers write in Dflat or Fsharp to show off? Message-ID: <176@olivej.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-May-84 13:00:33 EDT Article-I.D.: olivej.176 Posted: Wed May 9 13:00:33 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 12-May-84 09:34:32 EDT References: <3751@tekecs.UUCP> Organization: Olivetti ATC, Cupertino, Ca Lines: 39 Xref: 890 138 The subject of keys in Wolf songs brings up two questions to which I don't have answers, but with regard to which I'd be interested in seeing further discussion: (1) Accepted pitch today vs. at the time the music is written. I have heard frequently that our standard 440 A (although many orchestras tune higher) is nearly a half step higher than in the 19th Century. Is this true? If so, at what time did the shift take place? If it is true, it means that we are never hearing the intended "tonal color" implied by the original keys. (2) Transposition of songs. Although frowned on in opera (but nonetheless done on occasion) this is standard practice in the song literature. Most "original key" editions of Wolf, Schubert, Brahms, Schumann, etc. are for "high voice" - tenor or soprano. Those written either in the bass clef (Wolf's "Harfenspieler" and Michelangelo Lieder, Brahms "Four Serious Songs) or in keys which would be comfortably negotiable by bass/baritone/mezzo-soprano/contralto are the exception rather than the rule. On the other hand, many of the century's great song interpreters (Fischer-Dieskau, Janet Baker, Christa Ludwig, Hans Hotter, just for a few examples) are lower voices. At a guess, 75 % of the rep of these singers is done in keys other than the "original" published ones. Schwarzkopf herself, though she continued to bill herself as a soprano, performed many of her songs in transposed keys later in her career. These are points I've frequently thought about in performing songs myself, and have found difficulty coming to clear-cut decisions. - Greg Paley