Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site astrovax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!astrovax!dp From: dp@astrovax.UUCP (Deborah L. Padgett) Newsgroups: net.movies,net.music Subject: Re: Risky Business Message-ID: <348@astrovax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 18-May-84 17:20:32 EDT Article-I.D.: astrovax.348 Posted: Fri May 18 17:20:32 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 19-May-84 00:48:12 EDT References: <2649@cbscc.UUCP> <679@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: Princeton Univ. Astrophysics Lines: 40 Rosen: John Williams is no thief!!! Making a statement such as that shows your ignorance of his work. He is one of a very few film composers who can increase the cohesiveness and appeal of a movie simply by writing its score. You may have noticed that at least 7 of the top 10 movie-making films were scored by him (ET, STAR WARS, EMPIRE, JAWS, CE3K, RAIDERS, JEDI, and RAIDERS). His music is completely different from score to score and is only predictable in its high quality. I suspect that the real reason that you hate John Williams is that his style is similar to that of Wagner and R. Strauss, 19th century composers that you maintain an elitist distain of (yes, I read your immature statements concerning net.classical). Your assertion about Williams is only your opinion, and unless you can prove your statements, I will stick to my own view of Williams, which , I believe, is based on a much greater familiarity with both his works and those of similar classical composers than your snide remarks. Williams' music is far more original than that of the jaded rock groups thatyou mention; of composers using "modern" instruments only Vangelis seems to approach Williams' talent in integrating the visual and musical aspects of a film. The idea that Williams "steals" parts of Holst's "Mars" and Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" is utterly laughable; a comparison with the instrumental opera scores of the Romantic period or the tone poems of R. Strauss would be much more logical. Unfortunately, that might imply that you have an open enough mind about 19th century music to have actually listened to it (Tsk, tsk). If you would like to pick on a film composer who steals music, try James Horner; he has used the same bar of music in his soundtracks to BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS, STAR TREK II, KRULL, and TESTEMENT. My point to all this is: maybe you think that all 19th century music is bad (Williams successfully writes Romantic-style music; ergo he is an evil to be eliminated), but many other people do not agree with you. This doesn't mean that one of us is stupid, just that we have different tastes. Please do not resort to fabrications of the sort that you presented as fact in your article; just honestly state your opinion and offer concrete evidence for any "fact" that you introduce. Some of us out here like film scores as a legitimate form of music; don't be elitist and condemn us for being different. Sincerely, Deborah L. Padgett Princeton Astrophysics