Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site trwspp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!bmcg!cepu!trwrba!trwrb!trwspp!urban From: urban@trwspp.UUCP Newsgroups: net.music.classical Subject: Re: Beware: Old Instruments aren't performed traditionally Message-ID: <421@trwspp.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-May-84 13:53:18 EDT Article-I.D.: trwspp.421 Posted: Mon May 14 13:53:18 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 15-May-84 03:13:31 EDT References: <872@eosp1.UUCP> Organization: T R W, Redondo Beach, CA Lines: 29 * <- nasty bug >> Methods of making reeds may have changed. Shawms always seem to have a >> shwoopsy attack below pitch for every note. I have heard the alto and >> tenor shawm played with a clean attack on every note. It can be >> done, but WAS it traditionally done? I've been playing soprano shawm for all of six weeks, so I'm a real expert by Usenet standards :-) ... Generally I find that the "shwoopsy" attack on a note is the result of my own inexperience with the instrument. It's a matter of attacking underpitch and then immediately correcting the note. Like an oboe, a given fingering on the shawm can provide a whole host of notes depending on air pressure, reed pressure, and reed position. Lots of variables to play with. Then there's atmospheric condition. In any case, the more experienced shawm players I know always attack their notes dead on. But the pictures of Renaissance musicians don't show them playing the instrument like an oboe at all! Instead, they seem to have placed their mouth way down the reed to the mouthpiece (accounts for the cup-shaped mouthpiece) and blown with their cheeks puffed out instead of the tight-cheeked oboe-like embouchure. This produces a blatty duck-like sound that's pretty ugly to modern ears. I'll play my krummhorn when I want to make peculiar sounds. By the way, re: galliard tempo -- we play (and dance) galliards at the local Renaissance Faire, and generally go as up-tempo as the musicians and dancers can handle it.