Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site uwvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!bmcg!cepu!trwrba!trwrb!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!seismo!uwvax!anderson From: anderson@uwvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.music.classical Subject: Re: John Cage Message-ID: <247@uwvax.ARPA> Date: Fri, 4-May-84 18:17:45 EDT Article-I.D.: uwvax.247 Posted: Fri May 4 18:17:45 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 7-May-84 05:34:19 EDT Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 25 <> A recent article by Jeff Winslow points out that Cage's music, by virtue of its randomness, conveys nothing to its listeners. In particular it does not convey "beauty". This is true, and is in keeping with its purpose. We enjoy experiencing beauty because it triggers feelings, perhaps pleasant or profound. The goal of Zen meditation, on the other hand, is the cessation of thought and emotion. Not the cessation of awareness. I think that Cage's non-beautiful music has a similar purpose. In response to a couple of other points in Jeff's article: first, Cage does indeed "know" a lot about Zen Buddhism. Again, I recommend any of Cage's books, which are an entertaining and though-provoking blend of musical comments, anecdotes, and koans (short, cryptic writings designed to stump and infuriate the rational mind). Secondly, there may be people for whom mentions of Eastern philosophies have some sort of chic attraction, and these people may like to drop Cage's name, but I doubt that they regularly listen to his music. Listening to Cage (and practicing Zen) are very difficult and initially unrewarding activities. I never got beyond this initial period, but there is evidence that other people have. David Anderson (uwvax!anderson)