Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1.chuqui 4/7/84; site nsc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!nsc!chuqui From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: Usenet and causality (sort of) Message-ID: <963@nsc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-May-84 09:46:30 EDT Article-I.D.: nsc.963 Posted: Fri May 25 09:46:30 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Jun-84 05:50:49 EDT References: <13400001@hp-pcd.UUCP> <4366@utcsrgv.UUCP> <1917@mit-eddie.UUCP> Organization: The Warlocks Cave Lines: 21 The reason a set of linked articles seem to always be out of order (as in the Tim Maroney stuff) is because of the way uucp handles things in its directories. If all the sites were running under batching software there would be no problem because the batching stuff forces a FIFO setup on news. Unfortunately, many sites still pass news on a message at a time. Uucp does not understand FIFO. I don't know exactly what the execution algorithm is for uux but it has much more to do with the position of the file in the directory structure and the state of the moon than it does when uux got it in relation to when uux saw it. In a busy directory creating and zapping lock files and temp files and things it is very likely that a second article can actually have its control file placed higher up in the directory structure than the first one so that when uux starts scanning the directory it is sent first. chuq -- From the closet of anxieties of: Chuq Von Rospach {amd70,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4}!nsc!chuqui (408) 733-2600 x242 I'm really gonna miss her. A tomato ate my sister...