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From: osd@hou2d.UUCP (Orlando Sotomayor-Diaz)
Newsgroups: net.news,net.news.group
Subject: Re: About nuking newsgroups:
Message-ID: <392@hou2d.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 23-May-84 10:46:38 EDT
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Posted: Wed May 23 10:46:38 1984
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Glad to hear to some comments on the 'tiredgroups' idea.
About readnews deleting groups from the .newsrc file if
they are not in the active file:  That's fine. 
Whenever the semi-active group (aka tired group)
is revived, we restart numbering articles with #1.
Since there were no articles and your .newsrc file doesn't
have memory of the group, it's perfectly logical to restart
numbering with 1.

I also realize that the 'tiredgroup' implementation should apply
to subgroups only.  That way we all can discuss in more detail
the merits of a new high-level group.  But allowing creation of
subgroups more freely, will serve us (users and administrators)
very well, since it will make the reading of news more compatible
with the user's interests in a convenient way, and save the traffic
generated by the eternal discussion of the merits of a new subgroup.
I believe, though I don't have the numbers, that the implementation
would be beneficial to the bottom-line.

To finish, I have strong reservations about the 'justification' idea,
especially for subgroups, and understand that it's just an argument
used to compensate for the non-dynamic nature of the news software.
How can a discussion be justified if people haven't found the right
forum to start it and keep it going in the first place?  And in the
end, who is the Magister Ludi that must be convinced of such
'justification' ?

Keep the ideas coming. Flames to /dev/null.
-- 
Orlando Sotomayor-Diaz	/AT&T Bell Laboratories, Crawfords Corner Road
			/Holmdel, New Jersey, 07733 (Room 3M 325)
Tel: 201-949-1532	/UUCP: {{{ucbvax,decvax}!}{ihnp4,harpo}!}hou2d!osd