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From: werner@ut-ngp.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.news,net.news.group
Subject: Re: About nuking newsgroups:
Message-ID: <647@ut-ngp.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 24-May-84 02:31:32 EDT
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Posted: Thu May 24 02:31:32 1984
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RE:  alb@alice:

	"There is almost always a suitable place to test-run a new discussion.
	  If not that's what net.misc is for. "

Not the first time that I see this argument, and repetition does not make
it any better.  net.misc is simply not a good forum to bring up anything,
because most people don't read it.  How the hell can you get a discussion
started then, when you can't reach the people who'd be interested and
generate "enough" volume to "justify" a seperate group or sub-group?
And who dares to play "Authority" - who needs it, anyway?

The argument:  "Well, read net.misc then" stinks, so don't bring it up.
The simple truth of the matter is, that we have no CONVENIENT mechanism
to deal with the problem yet, and in our consumer-society, inconvenience
tends to result in self-defeat.  That's why "me and the gang of good guys
on slow (<1200 Baud) lines"  have to U all groups which contain a lot of
"noise", and net.misc sure is that.

There are ideas to improve things, but that takes code-hacking, and
compatibility work, soooooo

until then, let's make it easy on ourself, and, maybe create a mechanism
for 
	"TEMPORARY GROUPS"

with an automatic sunset-provision, so that when I want to discuss the new
Spielberg movies, I get the group "net.movies.gremlins" (or whatever)
created with ease, with a built in time-bomb to self-destruct, after 3 months
or 2 weeks without activity.

And until this (minor???) code change can be implemented, let's just be
real liberal with sub-groups, and not very tough with first level groups.

	werner @ ut-ngp