Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watdaisy.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdaisy!jmrobson From: jmrobson@watdaisy.UUCP (Mike Robson) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Any new irregular verbs? Message-ID: <6583@watdaisy.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-May-84 16:13:27 EDT Article-I.D.: watdaisy.6583 Posted: Tue May 22 16:13:27 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 23-May-84 19:17:32 EDT References: <49700001@hpfcra.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 22 [Please do not read this line] The question of whether verbs tend over time to become regular or the opposite can presumably be answered by reference to one of the languages for which we have written records going back far enough (e.g. Greek or Latin/Italian). It is apparently a very slow process since the lists of irregular or strong verbs in modern English and German are very similar after rather more than a millenium of separation. I haven't got a German dictionary or grammar handy but after racking my brain a bit the only likely candidate that I can think of is "shit" which is regular in English (in my dictionary at least; I had to look it up because I don't use the past tense very often) but I think "scheissen" is strong. Any German speakers please confirm and comment on status in Old High German or whatever. On further reflection, a more interesting example might be "scribe/schreiben". It seems plausible at least that this word lapsed from being irregular to being regular as a consequence of ceasing to be common enough to be irregular, when it dropped out of being the normal word for "write". Alternatively perhaps the opposite happened in German? It is clear that we need the OED on line to find quick answers to questions like this. Mike Robson (past participle Muck Rebson)