Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!bbncca!rrizzo From: rrizzo@bbncca.ARPA (Ron Rizzo) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: A topic for discussion, phil/ai pers - (nf) Message-ID: <723@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Thu, 17-May-84 17:13:01 EDT Article-I.D.: bbncca.723 Posted: Thu May 17 17:13:01 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 18-May-84 03:34:46 EDT References: <177@ism780.UUCP> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 11 There's a fourth type of person: one who doesn't know if humans are machines and who can't hold any of the 3 beliefs. The "problem of object identification" is merely a synonym for the "problem of machine perception". The adequacy of a scheme of descrip- tion for an object depends on what you want the machine to DO with that object. The problem is we not only lack ingenious descriptive schemes for objects for performing even simple perceptual for even simple perceptual skills, but we don't really know (in explicit rigorous terms) what these skills are that make human perception possible.