Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!decvax!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary From: dgary@ecsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Relativity questions Message-ID: <2416@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 1-May-84 13:38:51 EDT Article-I.D.: ecsvax.2416 Posted: Tue May 1 13:38:51 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 2-May-84 05:48:12 EDT References: sri-arpa.107 Lines: 41 RE the twin "paradox" ... The classic pu\zzlement runs thisaway: "If A goes to Alpha Centauri at .995c and comes back younger than B, the twin who stays home, OK. But howcome (if 'all motion is relative') we can't assume B is 'at rest' and A (along with the majority of the Cosmos) goes gallavanting away and back at .995c? Then B would be younger than A!!" Many textbooks discuss this problem and quite a few get it wrong. Many claim that since accelerations are involved, General Relativity is necessary. But this is not strictly so. By increasing the length of the trip but keeping the accelerations constant, we can vary the relative contribution of General Relativity effects as much as we like. A simple way of explaining the problem is to note that special relativity deals with inertial reference frames, and if you feel an acceleration, you're not in a single inertial frame but moving between them. So B is (more or less) staying in a single frame on Earth while A jumps into one frame headed out and another coming back. (By being 'in' a frame I mean at rest in it.) This makes it clear that A and B are NOT symmetrical and cannot easily be exchanged. I find this a little too simple, though. For detailed analysis, see if you can dig up the APS book of reprints named "Special Relativity - Selected Reprints" or something like that. There's a partial rerun of the famous Dingle exchange in Nature (Dingle was a physicist who believed the Twin Paradox proved Einstein wrong). You might also dig up Science News from about 1978 which had a long exchange of letters on the subject, almost all of which were nonsense but worth reading for amusement. The editors finally called a halt to it by yelling, "Shut up on this relativity crap!!" or something. Finally, Taylor and Wheeler's Spacetime Physics is absolutely tremendous, and may be the best physics text ever written. I recommend it for an analysis of many well-known relativity "paradoxes." Best, D Gary Grady Duke University Computation Center Durham, NC 27706 (919) 286-4296 (919) 684-4146 {decvax, etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary