Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site denelcor.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!floyd!cmcl2!seismo!hao!denelcor!neal From: neal@denelcor.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: really elementary particles Message-ID: <443@denelcor.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-May-84 13:02:11 EDT Article-I.D.: denelcor.443 Posted: Tue May 22 13:02:11 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 26-May-84 09:58:43 EDT References: <281@utastro.UUCP> Organization: Denelcor, Aurora, CO Lines: 44 ************************************************************************** > The major >difficulty is that the effective "size" of quark is very small and >the mass of a up or down quark is only a fraction of a proton mass. >In order to fit smaller particles inside a quark they must have >tremendous momentum (Heisenberg uncertainty principal del p x del x >is less than Planck's constant). Therefore they must have a large >energy, which in turn corresponds to a mass which is much greater than >the mass of the quark into which they fit. It is not clear how to >make this work. This brings up a hypothesis I have heard now and again: Since the mass of any particle is equal to the mass of its "constituent particles" MINUS the mass equivalence of the "binding energy" (e.g., the mass of a helium-4 nucleus is somewhat less than the sum of the masses of two protons and two neutrons), why wouldn't it be possible that quarks (for example) are "made up of" particles that are INDIVIDUALLY more massive than quarks with the excess being accounted for by a (VERY LARGE) binding energy? I can think of three objections to this hypothesis but none of them seem fatal: 1. It's counterintuitive. This hasn't been a serious objection in physics for almost a century. 2. It leads (potentially) to an infinite regress. This is philosophically "uncomfortable" but not enough so to reject the hypothesis. 3. If it ever were "verified" by an experiment, it would be difficult if not impossible to resolve the question of whether the new particles were actually "constituents" of the quark (or whatever) or just artifacts of the very high energies that went into the experiment. How about it? Is this hypothesis completely ridiculous or might it be a serious possibility? Regards, Neal Weidenhofer "Nothin' ain't worth nothin' Denelcor, Inc. but it's free" !denelcor!neal