Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site noao.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!bmcg!cepu!trwrba!escher!noao!allan From: allan@noao.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics,net.astro.expert Subject: Re: quasars and the history of the universe Message-ID: <345@noao.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-May-84 12:22:26 EDT Article-I.D.: noao.345 Posted: Fri May 25 12:22:26 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Jun-84 05:35:15 EDT References: <2440@brl-vgr.ARPA> Organization: Natl. Optical Astronomy Obs. Tucson AZ USA Lines: 24 Yes there are multiple images of the lensed quasar. There are two images about 7 arcseconds apart on the sky and are about 17th magnitude. According to the theory, there has to be an odd number of images if a distributed object such as a galaxy is doing the bending. The idea is that there are three images, but that two of them are so close together that they appear as a single object. As well as the optical information on the double quasar, there are also radio maps which show the double structure. The two images have been seen to vary, but they do not vary together. There is the hope that by monitoring the quasars over many years that it will be possible to correlate the variability and so find the difference in the light travel time along the two paths to the quasar. Knowing this and the geometry of the situation, we can measure the TRUE distance to the quasar. If this can be done then it will give us the value of the Hubble constant since we know the redshift and the variations give the distance. The problem with this is that so far we are not too sure about the geometry as there is a cluster of galaxies associated with the lensing galaxy, and this cluster provides a significant lensing effect. There are (I think) 4 more examples of multiple quasars. PG1115+080 is a triple quasar, just like the theory predicts. Peter (theories to go) Allan Kitt Peak National Observatory Tucson, Az