Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 v7 ucbtopaz-1.5; site ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbtopaz!bitmap From: bitmap@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Fascism/Communism Message-ID: <470@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Date: Tue, 1-May-84 19:09:51 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbtopaz.470 Posted: Tue May 1 19:09:51 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 2-May-84 06:37:15 EDT Organization: Univ. of Calif., Berkeley CA USA Lines: 43 <.....> I'm interested in the theoretical and practical (effective) similarities and differences in fascism and socialism/communism. In particular, the differences between the Soviet system and the National Socialist (Nazi) system of 30's and 40's Germany. Other systems (Franco dominated Spain, Mussolini in Italy, Mao in China) may be considered, too. I'd like to hear what people think, and what they think that other people think, too. Some similarities come readily to mind. (i) Single party state (ii) Economic system dominated by the government [I don't really know the practical differences here, so I'd welcome informed comments] (iii) A class enemy (?) Jews in Nazi Germany, the middle (and rich) classes in the S.U.--differences here, of course, as the Nazis emphasized racism. To my knowledge, anti-Semitism (sp?) is not publicized in the S.U., while it was played up in Nazi Germany (although the Nazi death camps were shrouded in secrecy). In the S.U., a person is completely unimportant compared with the state--was this true in Nazi Germany (hereafter abbreviated N.G.) also? Theoretical (?) differences (i) N.G. emphasized nationalism (Ein Volk)--the unification of all German speaking peoples. The S.U., I think, emphasizes the internationalism of the "workers' struggle", although apparently the Russians are somewhat more favored than the Ukranians, say. (ii) Is the bureaucracy in the S.U. more important than it was in N.G.? Hitler seems to have had more personal power than, say, Kruschev (I'll have to learn how to spell some of these names, I guess), but Stalin seemed to have comparable power. Perhaps it was because a war tends to concentrate power in the hands of fewer people? Comments welcome. Sam Hall, UCB decvax!ucbvax!ucbtopaz!bitmap