Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site teldata.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!teltone!teldata!tac From: tac@teldata.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Participative Democracy Message-ID: <330@teldata.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-May-84 14:16:07 EDT Article-I.D.: teldata.330 Posted: Wed May 2 14:16:07 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 4-May-84 01:11:40 EDT References: <973@ihuxm.UUCP> Organization: Teltone Corp., Kirkland, WA Lines: 47 , (sop to the blank line eaters--consider it a religious sacrifice) >> From: berman@ihuxm.UUCP (The Keyboard of Reason) >> >> "Paricipative Democracy"...now that's a great idea! >> >> I seem to remember a call for it, by a student group in the >> year 1963, a small group just emerging from the duldrums of the 1950's >> beginning to feel the stirings of civil rights and anti-war activism >> that characterized the decade that followed. The published a call >> for "Participatory Democracy" after a national conference, in a >> manifesto called "The Port Huron Statement." If popular demand >> reqests it, I'll dig out my dusty dogged eared copy and post >> the sections describing what was meant by participatory democracy. >> >> The organization? It was a small group of university students >> that called itself "Students for a Democratic Society". >> >> The rest is history. >> >> Andy Berman >> Andy, Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't that same group (SDS) get involved in some protests that lead to the bombing of a research lab (supposedly empty, but occupied by a grad student at the time) at Kent State which resulted in the presence of the National Guard while more protests and demonstrations were going on which resulted in some young men--who were out doing what they thought was defending their country--responding to provocation by firing their rifles and killing nine students? If my memory serves me correctly, those very demonstrations were organized by the SDS. The SDS didn't strike me as all that smart then, and I have never had any reason to reverse that decision--now you have given me reenforcement for it. I just don't believe in the intelligence of people who advocate throwing bottles and bricks (I will ignore any arguments about first gunfire) at armed soldiers and are then suprised when they get shot at! Additionally, what is in a name? The Peoples Democratic Republic of Wherever is a very popular name for Communist countries. I can't tell by your article whether you are in favor of the Particapative Democracy or not, or whether you even support(ed) the SDS. I do find it interesting that they called for such a thing in the '60s. From the Soapbox of Tom Condon {...!uw-beaver!teltone!teldata!tac} A Radical A Day Keeps The Government At Bay.