Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 v7 ucbtopaz-1.5; site ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbtopaz!bitmap From: bitmap@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Nuclear odds & ends Message-ID: <475@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Date: Wed, 2-May-84 17:21:43 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbtopaz.475 Posted: Wed May 2 17:21:43 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 4-May-84 02:20:33 EDT Organization: Univ. of Calif., Berkeley CA USA Lines: 55 <...> Limited Liability In response to an argument that the nuclear power industry should not be subsidized, in particular by limiting the liability, I must agree. I see no reason why the liability should be limited, and if a company screws up, it (the managers in particular) should be willing to bear the consequences. I also feel that the nuclear power industry should not be subject to overregulation and delays which coal and other power industries do not attract. My belief is that, in a free market, nuclear power can compete, economically, with other (coal, hydro) sources. Conservation Conservation is great, and many companies have saved much energy and money by this method (as Jon White points out). If I'm not mistaken, though, much of the energy saved by conservation is/has been in heating, which is not usually related to electrical power. Thus, most conservation-of-energy arguments don't apply to whether or not we need nuclear power. Further, most of the easy conservations have been made, to save money if for no other reason. All my friends (and their parents) turn down the thermostat at night, to the point where lots of blankets are necessary. If people are already wearing sweaters indoors during the day, are they likely to save more energy by foregoing heat altogether? Straw Men and Nuclear Irrationality Someone claimed that the "pro-nuke" people believed that anyone against nuclear power must think that a reactor could turn into a nuclear bomb. Naturally, anyone who is even slightly informed knows that this is not possible, including many (perhaps most) of the people who are against nuclear power. Certainly I would expect and hope that those who are actively opposed to nuclear power to have this modicum of knowledge. It is surprising, however, what sort of things that uninformed people believe. Recently (on a whim), I bought one of the latest "James Bond" books, having read the Ian Fleming series when I was young, and wondering how the new author compared. It was entitled "License Renewed". The bad guys were out to blackmail the world by taking over a bunch of nuclear power plants and threatening to turn them into "China Syndromes". In more than one place, the book talked about how the radioactivity would go straight through the earth and cause much damage when it emerged on the other side. So far as I can tell, the author really believed this to be possible. If the author, presumably an otherwise educated man, believed this to be possible, what do you think that his lesser-educated readers believe? If you couple such beliefs with the fanaticism of, say, Rex S*nders, who feels that it is not only right but important to usurp the democratic process because he *knows* his cause is just, you have a dangerous combination. (note: Rex probably knows that a reactor core melting through the earth is physically impossible, but it is clear, and amazing, that others don't know). Sam Hall