Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ccivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!seismo!rochester!ritcv!ccivax!band From: band@ccivax.UUCP (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Fascism/Communism Message-ID: <132@ccivax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 3-May-84 15:44:10 EDT Article-I.D.: ccivax.132 Posted: Thu May 3 15:44:10 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 4-May-84 06:46:59 EDT References: <470@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Organization: CCI Telephony Systems Group, Roch, NY Lines: 27 An eye-opening (at least for me) discussion of most of the major totalitarian and authoritarian governments of the current century is covered in detail by Paul Johnson in a book entitled "Modern Times" (NY: Harper & Row, 1983). One of Johnson's themes is that these governments flourished because of the rise of moral relativism. This was based in its turn on an indefensible extension of the physical theory of relativity into a doctrine of relativism (viz., everything is relative). His discussion of the rise of Hitler and Lenin (who was soon followed by Stalin), as well as Mussolini and Franco is very informative. Johnson is not very kind to the liberal way of thinking, but he does not hide his opinions. There is a tremendous amount of food for thought about totalitarian/authoritarian governments and how they compare to the kind of democratic, and capitalistic, society we have here in the United States. This book would be a basis for a very informative (and I think informed) discussion. -- Bill Anderson ...!{ucbvax!allegra | decvax}!rochester!ccivax!band