Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!ihuxt!martillo From: martillo@ihuxt.UUCP (Yehoyaqim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Holocaust and Jewish Resistance (long article) Message-ID: <462@ihuxt.UUCP> Date: Fri, 4-May-84 01:30:19 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxt.462 Posted: Fri May 4 01:30:19 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 5-May-84 01:01:27 EDT References: <323@hogpd.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 33 While this article makes some good points, there is some factual inaccuracy. The vast majority of Eastern European Jews were not orthodox. The largest concentrations of Eastern European Jews were in Poland, Hungary, and Rumania. There were more bundists in Poland than orthodox Jews. 80% of Hungarian Jews were status quo which is essentially the equivalent of conservative Judaism in the U.S. and the Ashkenazi population of Rumania was approximately 60% assimilated to German culture. While many religious Ashkenazim tended to screw themselves in terms of resistance, likewise the Eastern European Jewish left tended to screw themselves by persistently waiting for the non-Jewish left to rise up and help the Jewish left. Kerets, Hakam Bashi (Chief Rabbi) of Greece was supposed to have lead a rebellion in Auschwitz. Greek Jews who were much more religious on the average than Eastern Europeans (never having been truly emancipted) invariably rebelled in the concentration and death camps. My father's family who are religious were partisans in Yugoslavia and this was hardly unusual. In North Africa local resistance to the Germans was wholly Jewish, and droves of young Jews joined the free French for the purpose of killing Germans. In the battle of El Alamein, 60% of the free French soldiers were North African Jews. 5 of my uncles fought at El Alamein. This resistance to the Germans took on Messianic proportions because North African Jewish services often include a prayer pleading to God that Armelius should not be permitted to kill the Messiah. Armelius is Aramaic for Romulus which in German is Rommel who was threatening the Jewish settlements in Palestine which many North African Hakamim (rabbis) were equating with the coming of the Messiah (how little did they know). Fighting the Germans was considered a milhemet mitswah (jihad).