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From: jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: Annotating Annotated Annotators
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Date: Tue, 1-May-84 13:58:37 EDT
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Larry Bickford says:
>I have never stated that all pleasure is perversion [OK, BICKFORD, NO
>MORE CYCLING TRIPS INTO THE MOUNTAINS!]. I will state, however, that
>the HM declaration removes all restrictions on forms of pleasure - even
>those that would be disgusting by *others'* standards.

Let me give you an example of a "perversion" that might be considered
"disgusting" to others' standards.  Some people may find a religious
belief in a supernatural god and a perversion.  They would consider such
a belief a form of superstition, which is fundamentally not different from
a belief in vampires, goblins, and other creatures of the imagination.
These people would consider religious beliefs as unfit for the rational
human mind, and therefore disgusting.  I am trying to point out is that
the things that are pleasant and fulfillment to you, may be perversion
and disgusting to others, and vise versa. 

To summarize, I would like to state the following:  We ought to realize
that forcing our moral code on others in matters of personal and religious 
beliefs is counter productive.  It will achieve nothing, causing more
polarization and hate in our society.  We should respect, or at least
tolerate, other people personal moral and/or religious beliefs.  The terms
"perversions" and "disgusting" don't help.
-- 

Yosi Hoshen
Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
(312)-979-7321
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