Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.13 $; site uiucdcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!liberte From: liberte@uiucdcs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Problems - (nf) Message-ID: <33000042@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Sun, 29-Apr-84 21:14:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.33000042 Posted: Sun Apr 29 21:14:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 3-May-84 20:07:23 EDT References: <91@ssc-vax.UUCP> Lines: 29 Nf-ID: #R:ssc-vax:-9100:uiucdcs:33000042:000:1430 Nf-From: uiucdcs!liberte Apr 29 20:14:00 1984 #R:ssc-vax:-9100:uiucdcs:33000042:000:1430 uiucdcs!liberte Apr 29 20:14:00 1984 /***** ea:net.religion / ssc-vax!david / 6:15 pm Apr 25, 1984 */ A philosophy which denies miracles from the outset can never accept God. /* ---------- */ Would the reinterpretation of "miracles" to be "phenomena that follow natural law that we just don't know much about" be acceptable? My personal philosophy has room for God(s), but only if they follow the laws of nature. God is the everything - including all the natural laws and love and hate. The mention of astrology in a derogatory tone next to the mention of miracles in an approving tone seems somewhat contradictory to me. Although I admit the daily horoscope is off base, my experience with astrology is that there is a lot of evidence to back it up. There is often very little "scientific" evidence supporting once-in-an-eon miracles. As to how astrology can follow natural law, I am working on the hypothesis that astrology works because of a tradition that has been established over the years such that a soul chooses to incarnate at the right time and place so that their chart will have meaning corresponding to an individual's characteristics. Thus there is no physical connection between planets and personality, only a traditional connection. Once you get around to it, you can learn alot about yourself by looking at your chart. Daniel LaLiberte, U of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, Computer Science {moderation in all things - including moderation}