Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!bmcg!cepu!trwrba!trwrb!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!cires!nbires!opus!rcd From: rcd@opus.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Laws of Nature Message-ID: <449@opus.UUCP> Date: Sat, 5-May-84 01:19:03 EDT Article-I.D.: opus.449 Posted: Sat May 5 01:19:03 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 8-May-84 03:28:13 EDT References: <115@ssc-vax.UUCP> Organization: NBI, Boulder Lines: 18 <> >>=rosen, >=norris >> And what is the cause of this "pressure?" If everything must have a cause, >> so must this. If some things may be causeless, why not the universe? > >Because you can't reverse entropy. Entropy gets a worse rap than God. It's less understood and is more often mis-attributed as being (or not being) a causal factor for things...[but see net.origins if you want the really ludicrous ones] Did I miss a :-), or does Norris actually think that the way you wind up the universe is to suck all the entropy out of it, and that requires a causal agent? (BTW, in case you're curious, the real statement is not "you can't reverse entropy" but roughly "the entropy of an isolated system is monotonically nondecreasing with time".) -- ...Relax...don't worry...have a homebrew. Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303) 444-5710 x3086