Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck From: stanwyck@ihuxr.UUCP (Don Stanwyck) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: My previous warning Message-ID: <1078@ihuxr.UUCP> Date: Fri, 11-May-84 10:48:24 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxr.1078 Posted: Fri May 11 10:48:24 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 12-May-84 11:15:30 EDT References: <9050@mgweed.UUCP> <1074@ihuxr.UUCP> <9061@mgweed.UUCP> <1102@ihuxl.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 46 With regard to my statement noting that not all Christians support the types of actions carried on in the name of God by some people, I wish to issue a first clarification (first, because I expect I will have to defend it yet more). 1. D. Seifert put it very well when he noted that before disobeying a government one should be absolutely certain that one is actually acting as God would have you. I would go a step further and note that sometimes our understanding of timing and priorities is only our own, and may not be what we want it to be - God's. 2. The specific action referred to in the original article would be just as illegal in the U.S., Canada, or most (if not all) so-called free countries. Smuggling anything across a border, whether it be books, drugs, people, or anything else is illegal everywhere. It is an intentional attempt to avoid the tariffs, import quotas, etc., of the target country. If someone were to attempt to bring a load of Bibles into the U.S. for distribution to the citizens of the U.S., and the Bibles were discovered at the border, they would be jailed for smuggling, copywrite violation, import law violations, and (most likely) a host of other charges. Would those who encourage it elsewhere try to defend their actions here? 3. Bibles, yeah, even Russian language Bibles, are available in the USSR. They are incredibly expensive, not only in terms of money, but also in terms of the expected results of purchasing one (persecution of various sorts, etc.). None the less, the USSR has copywrite laws that make it illegal to bring in books published elsewhere unless the proper permits are obtained. I, for one, am not sure that what is being done (smuggling of Bibles) is what God would have these people do. I think it could almost as easily be argued that we should smuggle people into the U.S. so that can have more "religious freedom" (and some are doing so - see recent news reports on churchs smuggling in Latin American refugees), another act I find very difficult to justify. This is long enough, and I am sure I will be flamed for it, so I will quit for now. -- ________ ( ) Don Stanwyck @( o o )@ 312-979-3062 ( || ) Cornet-367-3062 ( \__/ ) ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck (______) Bell Labs @ Naperville, IL