Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cornell.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!ihnp4!houxm!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!cornell!gtaylor From: gtaylor@cornell.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Revelation Knowledge, The Impasse Message-ID: <13@cornell.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-May-84 16:56:22 EDT Article-I.D.: cornell.13 Posted: Tue May 15 16:56:22 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 16-May-84 04:41:27 EDT References: <768@akgua.UUCP> Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept. Lines: 36 Yes, Bob...but you're navigating toward rather trecherous waters here by implying that what you refer to as "Revelation" can or should not be discussed outside of the more traditional categories of Rational/Empirical epistemology. I would imagine that we'll have the net full for the next epoch or so with a) Platonists/Kantians disputing your view of Rationalism close shave with Occam's razor. Just for fun, let's watch the brouhaha. While I think that you're absolutely correct to point out that net.religion seems full of people who sling mud on the basis of possible epistemic misunderstanding or misrepresentation (it's possible that some wag may even suggest we all slink off to net.Philosophy to ponder this further), I'm not certain that producing a category of Revelation out of the epistemic hat will help much. Both the Empirical tradition and the Rationalist tradition have men of serious religious conviction in their ranks who did not find Revelation a separate category from their formulation of the nature of knowledge (Kant and Bishop Berkeley come to mind here). Besides which, you've left out both the Pragmatist and the Existentialist traditions as well. I heartily agree that there are some problems of language and philosophical presupposition afoot here. I'm just not sure that your formulation is either very helpful either in terms of the history of Christian thought on the subject, or interms of the philosophical distinctions among the armed camps on the net. "If we are adjured to be 'wise as serpents', what constitutes knowledge, serpentwise????" your pal, gtaylor