Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!zehntel!ihnp4!ihuxr!lew From: lew@ihuxr.UUCP (Lew Mammel, Jr.) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Russell Anderson's Enoch article Message-ID: <1102@ihuxr.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-May-84 15:58:18 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxr.1102 Posted: Mon May 28 15:58:18 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Jun-84 06:37:21 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 65 In his article relating Joseph Smith's "The Book of Moses" to the Enoch texts of the Dead Sea Scrolls, Russell Anderson stated, Although there were no copies of the Book of Enoch in Joseph Smith's time, several versions have been found and published. Russell also fixed Smith's production of this work around 1829. Consider then the following excerpt from THE OLD TESTAMENT PSEUDEPIGRAPHA, edited by James H. Charlesworth: It took another century before copies of 1 Enoch finally arrived in Europe. They were brought in 1773 by J. Bruce, the adventurous Scottish traveler to Africa. Nothing occurred until 1800, when Silvestre de Sacy, in his "Notice sur le levre d'Henoch" (in MAGAZINE ENCYCLOPEDIQYE 6/1, p. 382), first published excerpts form the book together with Latin translations of chapters 1, 2, 5-16, and 22-32. In 1821 Lawrence issued the first English version of the work. In 1853 Dillmann published a translation which aroused much interest in the work. That 1821 date is provocative, although I don't know whether it's necessary to invoke outside sources to understand Smith's productions from a secular viewpoint. I was still interested in these purported correspondences, and Charlesworth doesn't include the "Book of Giants" in his work, referring the reader rather to Milik. I found THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS 1947-1969, by Edmund Wilson. It had a heading of "Mormonism" near the back. This turned out to be part of a section entitled "General Reflections". Here is the keynote of this authors assessment of Mormonism: Here we have had growing up, as it were, right under our noses, in our familiar American West and as lately as the last century, the cult of a swindler, a charlatan and an unscrupulous and insatiable lecher, and the establishment, based upon it, of a solid and respectable church, which now flourishes with huge ugly sacred buildings, a Tabernacle and a Temple, its special educational system and its international missionary service, on the basis of fraudulent and nonsensical scriptures and the legend of Joseph Smith the martyr, as well as of the able management and the inculcation of discipline contributed by his successor Brigham Young. He characterizes the Book of Mormon as "a farrago of balderdash". The Library had a copy of the Book of Mormon, which I riffled through. An Appendix lists upwards of a hundred names which "originate in the Book of Mormon", with a sprinkling of Biblical names mixed in. The Library did not have "The Pearl of Great Price", which contains "The Book of Moses". I also did not find Milik's book on the Dead Sea Enoch, so I'm at a Dead End in my pursuit of an independent critique of Russell's scriptural comparison. David Dyer-Bennet, in his positive reception of Russell's article, stated, ... this sounds infinitely more like 'evidence' for SOMETHING than any other religious argument I've heard on this net. I'll agree that it "sounds like" evidence, but I invite David to examine the supposed scriptural correspondences that Russell provided in his article. Many of them bear only the vaguest thematic resemblance. If you combine this weakness with the blatant and self-serving (whether consciously so or not) misstatement I mentioned above, and the general background of Smith's writings, I think you'll see that sounding like evidence is not the same as being evidence. Lew Mammel, Jr. ihnp4!ihuxr!lew