Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcsstat.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsstat!rao From: rao@utcsstat.UUCP (Eli Posner) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Holocaust and Jewish Resistance (long article) Message-ID: <1886@utcsstat.UUCP> Date: Mon, 7-May-84 19:43:04 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsstat.1886 Posted: Mon May 7 19:43:04 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 7-May-84 20:30:45 EDT References: <462@ihuxt.UUCP>, <1881@utcsstat.UUCP> Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 42 From: martillo@ihuxt.UUCP (Yehoyaqim Martillo) >This resistance to the Germans took on Messianic proportions because North >African Jewish services often include a prayer pleading to God that >Armelius should not be permitted to kill the Messiah. Armelius is Aramaic >for Romulus which in German is Rommel who was threatening the Jewish >settlements in Palestine which many North African Hakamim (rabbis) were >equating with the coming of the Messiah (how little did they know). I just want to clarify one thing Mr. Martillo mentioned in the above quote. Was Mr. Martillo implying when he said "how little did they know" with regards to the Rabbis of North Africa belief that Jewish settlements in Israel was part of the coming of Messiah (atchalta di'geula), that they are and were wrong ????!!!! If so , I am shocked that Mr. Martillo could ignore the obvious events that are occuring in the Mid. East, and not connect them with what we were told would happen in the Mesianic period. For example, 1) the blossoming of fields and meadows in Israel only occured once Israel was under Jewish rule. Before that, under Arab rule, Israel was a barren wasteland. 2)Kibbutz Goliot- After 2000 years, Jews are beginning to re-settle Eretz Yisrael, coming from all over the world. 200 years ago, who could have thought this possible? 3) "Ain bein Yimot hamasheich li'yomeinu ellah SHEE'BOOD GOLIOT"-Mesechet Megila The only change in the Messianic period will be the that the Jews will have self-rule, and not be enslaven by any foreign force. Self-Expanatory. Enough of this for now. My apologies to Mr. Martillo if I misinterpreted him. >Fighting the Germans was considered a milhemet mitswah (jihad). Obviously it was. It's straight-forwardly written in the Rambam. -- Eli Posner {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!utcsstat!rao