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Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish
Subject: Yom Ha'atzmaut
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Date: Sun, 6-May-84 22:39:09 EDT
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Posted: Sun May  6 22:39:09 1984
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	Many people do not consider the formation of a Jewish
     state ( and the Israeli military victories) a miracle.
     Others say that even if it is a miracle, we do not say
     Hallel on Yom Ha'atzmaut (with or wihout a bracha) because
     we might be saying a "Shem Hashem L'vatalla" (name of
     of G-d in vain).
	I personally DO say Hallel WITH a bracha. I have no problem
     considering the formation of a Jewish state a miracle. I
     feel that great military victories (such as the recapturing
     of Jerusalem) are reason for saying Hallel. One basis for this
     argument is the fact that we say Hallel on Purim and Hannukah.
     In both cases we are celebrating military victories (most rabbis
     hold that the main celebration of Hannukah is NOT the miracle
     of the oil - but rather the fact the the Jews defeated the
     Greeks). In the case of Purim, the is no "clear-cut" miracle
     at all.
	As for the people who do not say Hallel: I can understand
     their reasons and I don't have anything against them.  The high
     school I went to (Talmudical Academy of Balto.) was definitely
     against saying Hallel. However, I can not understant the view
     of the last Satmar Rebbe z"l who claims that the Israeli mili-
     tary victories are the workings of the Satton ("Satan").
	Well, I just wanted to get that off my chest. Please do not
     flame me about grammar or translteration etc. Also, if you dis-
     agree with my views, please don't get too emotional when you
     respond, as I've noticed some net people tend to do just that.

					      Eli Haber
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