Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd70!dual!zehntel!ihnp4!ihuxt!martillo From: martillo@ihuxt.UUCP (Yehoyaqim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Assertions of jewishness by reform and Conservative Jews (long) Message-ID: <532@ihuxt.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-May-84 20:22:32 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxt.532 Posted: Fri May 25 20:22:32 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Jun-84 01:25:11 EDT References: <890@eosp1.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 13 I am not sure I understand Toby Robison's use of jewishness. I think of jewishness as being equivalent to Hebrew Yahadut, Judeo-Spanish Judezmo or Judeo-Arabic al-Yahud. These terms all simultaneous refer to the Jewish world, Jewish practice, Jewry and the quality of being a Jew. The reform specifically deny the existence of a separate Jewish nation. The objective of the JTS was to develop a specifically American form of Jewish observance. This objective ignored that Jewry existed for thousands of years before there was a USA and Jewry will exist long after there is no longer a USA. The reform denies Jewishness and the JTS subordinates Jewishness to Americanism, lack of Jewish assertiveness by the non-observant is hardly surprising.