Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site iddic.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!tektronix!orca!iddic!rickc From: rickc@iddic.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: psychics in Heinlein Message-ID: <1652@iddic.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Apr-84 11:32:29 EDT Article-I.D.: iddic.1652 Posted: Mon Apr 30 11:32:29 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 2-May-84 04:49:58 EDT Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 37 o Wait a minute! What are 'psychic powers' except abilities to perform powerful or otherwise useful tasks without using technology? W. F. Jones' ability to tap magical powers in Waldo certainly seems 'psychic' to me. Perhaps the confusion stems from the 'psychic researchers' attempts to be credible and classify their phenomonae. Since none of their classified effects have been clearly reproducible, I feel free to include any strange, non-technological powers that an individual has as 'psychic'. I Will Fear No Evil: The Joan-Johann connection might have been physical, but what about the connection with Jake? Stranger in a Strange Land: What precludes a 'psychic' power from being learned? Seems to me the whole psychic field is based on the idea that current science is incomplete about its knowledge of the nature of reality. Methuselah's Children: Electromagnetic radiation is not an explanation for the group mind. Any such radiation would be immediately detected by the ship's instruments. (An aside: for a description of radio based telepathy see Olaf Stapledon's First and Last Men.) My personal opinion is that Heinlein makes the statement in The Number of the Beast and I Will Fear No Evil that the noted effects are real, not imaginary. Rick Coates tektronix!iddic!rickc