Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ames-lm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!seismo!hao!ames-lm!barry From: barry@ames-lm.UUCP (Kenn Barry) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Space nazis and people who compplain Message-ID: <254@ames-lm.UUCP> Date: Thu, 17-May-84 16:06:45 EDT Article-I.D.: ames-lm.254 Posted: Thu May 17 16:06:45 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 18-May-84 07:30:24 EDT References: <4271@utcsrgv.UUCP>, <1578@dartvax.UUCP> Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 40 [No...get back...AAA{ (burp)] Despite my extremely low opinion of "V" (the first one, not 'The Final Battle', which I did not watch), I agree that a lot of people are wasting time picking it apart. As one correspondent put it, it's "shooting fish in a barrel". Too little thought went into it, to justify spending much thought on criticizing it. While "The Game" (finding the flaws in the science in science fiction) is an honorable tradition in SF fandom, it is better played against a worthy opponent. For instance, I heard Larry Niven once mention that he has received over 100 valid complaints of flaws in the science in RINGWORLD, even though he did very thorough homework before writing the book. Even so, I submit that at least some of the postings on "V" (such as mine :-)) have been more substantial, in that they point to truly serious problems in the film (illogical plot, unbelievable characters, internal inconsistancies, and generally slapdash filmmaking). I suspect that the real message of all these put-downs of "V", though, is positive. It expresses the disappointment of those like myself who, at least briefly, had hoped that "V" would be better than the kind of 'sci-fi' that TV usually offers. It shows that we are basically optimists, and are hurt when we see trash, and know something worthwhile could have been done on the same budget. So, sure, it's OK to like "V". It's no worse than most TV drivel, just a bigger disappointment. I confess that I, too, am capable of enjoying real junk when it happens to tickle my fancy. But I'd still say it's too bad that they didn't try a little harder, as I think that just a little (?) more regard for logic and attention to detail could have resulted in far more than what we got. And I think it's sad, as well, that the high ratings received by something like "V" only confirm the writer's and producer's low opinion of the taste and intelligence of the TV viewer, and thereby encourage them to do more of the same. Speaking of which, I gather there will be a "V" series this Fall. Permit me to make you a small bet, John Cabell - before more than a few episodes have been aired, I predict that you, too, will be ready to upchuck. Kenn Barry NASA-Ames Research Center Moffett Field, CA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Electric Avenue: {dual,hao,menlo70,hplabs}!ames-lm!barry