Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1a 12/4/83; site rlgvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rlgvax!guy From: guy@rlgvax.UUCP (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Why we complain; a statement of principles Message-ID: <1975@rlgvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 31-May-84 23:59:10 EDT Article-I.D.: rlgvax.1975 Posted: Thu May 31 23:59:10 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Jun-84 11:49:03 EDT References: <1095@sri-arpa.UUCP> <1137@qubix.UUCP> Organization: CCI Office Systems Group, Reston, VA Lines: 33 > Alas, Einstein discovered much more than that. He discovered > that the very nature of the Universe, is considerably different > than what we imagine. Travelling FTL, is absurd, because the > entire concept of "faster" depends upon what frame of reference you > are in. Speed, in and of itself, does not exist -- thus, one > cannot be travelling "close to the speed of light", one can only > be almost C out of synch with another object. The universe is > warped in the fourth dimension, so that everything, at every > velocity, is in the exact center of the universe. > There are a lot more discoveries than this, but I won't bother > to go into detail. Suffice it to say, that space empires, and > FTL drives, derive their origin from the refusal to believe in > a non-NEWTONIAN universe. But again, not all the future science > in the world, is going to change the univewrse back to a newtonian > one. The most one can say is "FTL travel is ruled out by Einsteinian mechanics"; Einsteinian mechanics will never be "proven" (nor will the Second Law of Thermodynamics) correct and unbreakable in a mathematical sense. It may be, however, that no theory permitting FTL travel which fits current observations can be constructed; it's already been shown (to take another example) that no "hidden variable" theories of a certain kind can be constructed that will exactly reproduce the predictions of quantum mechanics. No future theories that correctly describe the universe will describe a Newtonian one, to be sure. And frankly, if I were given the opportunity to bet a large sum of money that FTL won't be discovered within the next 1 million years, and offered the chance to collect on that bet, I'd make it. But I wouldn't claim it was absolutely a logical impossibility. It's just damn unlikely. Guy Harris {seismo,ihnp4,allegra}!rlgvax!guy