Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1a 12/4/83; site rlgvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rlgvax!guy From: guy@rlgvax.UUCP (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: FTL does not create paradoxes - future not past Message-ID: <1976@rlgvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Jun-84 00:09:15 EDT Article-I.D.: rlgvax.1976 Posted: Fri Jun 1 00:09:15 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Jun-84 11:49:18 EDT References: <7162@rochester.UUCP> Organization: CCI Office Systems Group, Reston, VA Lines: 23 I'm not sure that FTL travel doesn't imply "time travel into the past". In your example, star systems A and B weren't moving relative to one another, so their reference frames differed only by choice of the origin of the space and time coordinate systems. However, if I remember my relativity correctly, if one has someone leaving system A at time TA and arriving at system B at time TB (in, say, system A's reference frame), a reference frame can be found in which time T'A is the same or earlier than time T'B. This reference frame would be moving relative to the frames of systems A and B. The space and time separation between the departure from A and the arrival at B is "spacelike", which means that there exists a reference frame in which it is purely a spatial separation (i.e., the trip *is* instantaneous!) and also that the difference in times can be positive *or* negative (i.e., the guy can be observed arriving at B earlier than they leave A). It's geometrically equivalent to the spatial distance along a particular coordinate between two events with a "timelike" separation (i.e., connected by something moving slower than light; there exists a reference frame in which the separation is purely a temporal separation) being positive in one frame and negative in another - just rotate the frame of reference. Ask a physicist about this one; I don't have my old relativity text at hand so I can't check it out easily. Guy Harris {seismo,ihnp4,allegra}!rlgvax!guy