Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site drux3.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!hogpc!houxe!drutx!drux3!anita From: anita@drux3.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: re: re: drooling for marriage, and "Men- or Lady-killers"... Message-ID: <1165@drux3.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-May-84 11:51:31 EDT Article-I.D.: drux3.1165 Posted: Mon May 21 11:51:31 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 22-May-84 07:39:31 EDT Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 35 -- > I get bloody tired of this "your place or mine?" stuff and, even when I > was living with my lover, because I am so socialized to think about > marriage, I always felt on edge because I knew there was no > commitment. I agree with Dick Dunn when he says that marriage and living together are not necessarily on opposite ends of the commitment spectrum. Commitment has to do with what your attitudes and expectations are, as well as those of the person you live with. Marriage used to be a public statement that you and your SO were making a life-long commitment, and not getting married meant that you weren't, but those assumptions are no longer valid. I am living with my boyfriend and, contrary to the above a statement, our relationship has gotten even better since we moved in together, mainly, I think, because we both perceive the other as having made a commitment, and that's important to us. With regard to the "your place or mine?" stuff, and the one night stands discussion: I have had my share of ONS's and I think it all depends on your attitudes and reasons for having them. I didn't meet the guys in bars, but rather at parties and through other activities with friends. This meant that I usually knew them, or at least knew who their friends were, before I went to bed with them. That's not quite the same as taking the chance of picking up a total stranger in a bar. Also, I never felt that everyone was so much on the on the prowl as at bars. I think at the time I simply needed to feel attractive to men, and I needed some affection, too, while recovering from a relation- ship. But, I wasn't ready for anything involved. When I was ready for a relationship, I acted differently. For what it's worth, Anita