Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1.chuqui 4/7/84; site nsc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!nsc!chuqui From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: In defense of marriage (thoughts from an ivory tower) Message-ID: <981@nsc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-May-84 12:41:33 EDT Article-I.D.: nsc.981 Posted: Tue May 29 12:41:33 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Jun-84 07:08:21 EDT References: <514@cbdkc1.UUCP>, <1027@wateng.UUCP> <289@ut-sally.UUCP> Organization: The Warlocks Cave Lines: 68 Having been, in past times of my life, unmarried, married, and now in the process of becoming unmarried again, let me throw a few pieces of perspective at you: Marriage is by far the most wonderful thing that can happen to two people. For marriage to really work and not just exist or survive everything has to be right. The first factor is love. If you do not love your partner you cannot survive the inevitable problems that will occur in your life. The next factor is friendship. Love is simply not enough. You have to like the person as well. Believe me, it is very possible to love someone you can't stand for any number of reasons. There must be a high degree of compatibility, and of empathy. There must also be a willingness to allow (and take) space and individuality. There must be common interests because this is what the relationship will live and die on. The things you have in common is what draws you together. The empathy is what helps you understand your partners point of view. There must also be enough difference to keep things interesting. Marrying someone who looks (or becomes) exactly like you isn't a relationship, it is narcissm. It ultimately fails when you get tired of looking at yourself. Marriage is, at the ultimate ideal, sharing your existance with someone throughout eternity (depending on how long you feel eternity lasts). You marry someone because you want to share yourself and your life with someone for as long as you live. Many (most, probably) relationships simply don't have this kind of resiliency. You can see this in the divorce statistics. There is a very large place in this society for people willing to simply live together. Divorce has to be the most painful experience any ego has to go through, and I sincerely do not recommend it to anyone. The one thing I have found out about our society is that its priorities are ass backwards. It is trivial to get married. It is hell to get un-married. Realistically it should be much harder to get yourself into such a commitment than it is because most people who make that commitment have no idea what they are getting into. Now, from Chuqui's book of bedtime stories, here are some of the many reasons for NOT getting married: Love. Lust. Children. Lust. Tax Purposes. Lust. Parents. Lust. (I told you they were bedtime stories) Society (probably the greatest evil of them all) Lust (So I'm in a rut. So to speak... :-) And here are the reasons FOR getting married: You are going to spend the rest of your life sharing it with the other person. (Note I said are, not want to. Marriage is a BIG job and a lot of work. The cards are stacked against you, and the both of you had better know you can and will succeed). chuq -- From the closet of anxieties of: Chuq Von Rospach {amd70,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4}!nsc!chuqui (408) 733-2600 x242 I'm sure I have my death ray in here somewhere...