Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site wateng.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!wateng!tpchmara From: tpchmara@wateng.UUCP (Tom Chmara) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: More thoughts from an ivory tower Message-ID: <1046@wateng.UUCP> Date: Thu, 31-May-84 13:12:34 EDT Article-I.D.: wateng.1046 Posted: Thu May 31 13:12:34 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Jun-84 08:32:33 EDT References: <1027@wateng.UUCP> <735@pucc-h>, <79@stat-l> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 37 [ "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance..." ] In the words of our wombat: `A "travesty of marriage" ? Perhaps for you, but not for me. If you want to make a lifetime committment based on your ideas of sociology, religion, and whatever, fine; but I think promising a lifetime committment is naive and dangerous. People grow up, and people change, and sometimes they grow up in different directions; it is ridiculously stupid to ask such people to live together when the relationship is no longer viable, and it is naive to assume that *your* relationship couldn't possibly be one of those.' Too bad you feel this way. It's along the lines of a self-fulfilling prophesy. It is reasonable to believe that you and your mate may have difficult times, and at times things will in all likelihood seem impossible. However, if you walk into the relationship saying `this probably isn't going to last', not only will you walk out when the going gets tough (where're you going, tough guy?) you won't be around to see when things do work out. The marriages I have seen WORKING are characterized by one thing: communication. If you ``grow apart'', the seeds of that were in all likelihood present before but you avoided/neglected discussion of these interests/problems. I have observed (empirically) that the main ingredient here is a willingness to become interested in what interests the other: after all, you're interested in them, aren't you? Therefore, you are probably (should be) interested to that facet of the other's personality. If not, maybe you shouldn't be married in the first place, nor in fact in any similar relationship. Sorry about the tone of this note, but I am very frustrated with those who take such a negative attitude. I'd imagine that if you were in a burning building, an equivalent response would be "well, I might as well give up now...people have died in situations like this". Sorry, I don't give up that easily. I'd rather spend my time looking for the fire hose, or preferably investing in a sprinkler system before the fact. Thanks for your kind attention. ---tpc---