Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site wivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!wivax!dyer From: dyer@wivax.UUCP (Stephen Dyer) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: thoughts on desperation Message-ID: <19573@wivax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Jun-84 01:22:06 EDT Article-I.D.: wivax.19573 Posted: Fri Jun 1 01:22:06 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Jun-84 11:54:11 EDT References: <7865@watmath.UUCP>, <740@pucc-h> Organization: Wang Institute, Tyngsboro, Ma. 01879 Lines: 23 Sorry Jeff, I read your "triumphant" article in much the same way as Sophie did. And this latest article, well, there's just so much misinformation there (or more kindly, ignorance) of what gay people are like (not that one should even have the PRESUMPTION to speak for more than oneself) that I feel defeated, overwhelmed, incapable of knowing where to begin (or even whether to bother) to react to your article substantively. Perhaps if I calm down in a few days I'll give it a stab. A couple of comments: Boswell's book is readily available in most bookstores; it is indeed a shame that most Fundamentalists don't or won't read it. And, if your gay friends all demonstrate an "unattractive self-loathing" or a "streak of meanness", perhaps you need to find new gay friends. Take a look at the articles in "net.motss"; do the kaleidoscope of people, ideas and topics evidence "self-loathing"? Meanness? I wonder what conclusions I could come up with about my straight friends based on a few humdingers I know. Or maybe a theory of heterosexuality based on the postings to "net.singles" (and obsolete warmed-over Freudian jargon.) -- /Steve Dyer decvax!bbncca!sdyer sdyer@bbncca.ARPA