Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Denver Mods 4/2/84) 6/24/83; site drutx.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!harpo!seismo!cmcl2!floyd!whuxle!spuxll!abnjh!u1100a!pyuxn!pyuxww!gamma!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!hogpc!houxe!drutx!rkp From: rkp@drutx.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball Subject: Runner's tagging up and 4 outs. Message-ID: <310@drutx.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-May-84 16:21:56 EDT Article-I.D.: drutx.310 Posted: Mon May 14 16:21:56 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 17-May-84 05:34:53 EDT Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 25 The case with runner's on second and third with the fly ball caught for the second out, runner back to second for the second out, and then thrown home for the tag to make 4 outs is really outrageous. Someone must have been pulling your leg. Yesterday I saw this one. Trevino on third and Murphy on first with one out. Chambliss lines one to right center. Trevino is staying at third to tag up and score. Murphy heads on around second since the ball appears like it's going to drop in for a hit. Frobel makes a running catch on the track for out number two. Trevino tags up at third and literally walks in home for the tying run. BUT, Murphy has to put on the brakes around second and race back to first base, because, if the throw from Frobel gets to first before Murphy gets back, it is the third out (a force play) and the run doesn't score. (Fortunately, he got back, and the Braves made a great comeback in the bottom of the 10th to win.) So, the description by that nasty old Braves hater from Athens, GA couldn't be accurate. Once the third out is made, the inning is over. No runs can score on a force play so there is no reason to make the throw to the home plate. Russ Pierce drutx!rkp