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From: rjnoe@ihlts.UUCP (Roger Noe)
Newsgroups: net.startrek
Subject: Re: Trivial asbestos-substitute
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Date: Thu, 10-May-84 11:59:20 EDT
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Posted: Thu May 10 11:59:20 1984
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Note: this whole article should be taken with a grain of :-) (or at least
quadrotriticale!)

Dave Butenhof comments on the contents of postings to this newsgroup:
>	there seems to be an amazing amount of inaccuracy in the trivia
Absolutely!  But then that's what gives us both job security so we can
post articles like this.

>	There have been sitings from Gerrold's books and even speeches
Sittings?  Or maybe you mean "citings"?  Certainly you can't expect to
be picky and not be picked at.

>	An interesting side question:  to my knowledge, McCoy was
>	never not the same thing twice.  Does anyone have contrary evidence?
Not me.

>	The salt shakers, for example, were not "twentieth-century kitchen
>	utensils."  They were in fact twenty-first century table utensils.
Oh, this really gets to me!!  How can such a fool as you get away with
posting such inaccurate and misleading information and pretend it's factual!
[[:-)]]  But to get to the point, Star Trek was never said to be set in
the 21st century.  They were vague during the series, saying "22nd or 23rd"
if they said anything at all, but the first title in ST:TMP is "In the
twenty-third century".  Also, they were not TABLE utensils, but tray utensils,
as in the one yeoman Rand was carrying to Kirk when she comes across the salt
vampire in one of its other forms.

>	They were developed for "Mantrap" . . .
>	Dave Butenhof
Well, it depends on how you mean "developed".  Roddenberry sent out someone
(I've forgotten exactly whom, but it was probably Feinberg) to find some
real salt shakers that looked futuristic.  Not one was designed or fabricated
by the prop makers for Star Trek.  However, they did adapt them somewhat for
McCoy's instruments.  By the way, I think I heard that the salt shakers
(used as same in "Man Trap") actually came from the NBC commissary or some
such place.  Anyone know the details on that reference?

If you're looking for something besides trivia to discuss here, I've been
saving up some of the things I've been hearing about the upcoming movie.
(Only 22 more days!)  I'll post it in about a week in a spoiler article.
	Roger Noe		ihnp4!ihlts!rjnoe