Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!seismo!ut-sally!jsq From: jsq@ut-sally.UUCP (John Quarterman) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers,net.tv Subject: Re: Invasion of the Space Nazis, the final battle Message-ID: <65@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-May-84 01:58:41 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.65 Posted: Tue May 15 01:58:41 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 12-May-84 09:24:38 EDT References: <7673@watmath.UUCP> <241@ames-lm.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 23 Xref: 516 339 There's a story called ``Proxima Centauri'' by Murray Leinster that has huge, self contained star ships, and invading, ravenous, people-eating aliens. It is at least representative of that sort of thing, and can be found in The Road to Science Fiction #2, edited by James Gunn. The story was originally published in 1935, from which we can infer that popular sf on television has advanced to the state of pulp stf of the 30s. That's at least as good as the movies, I suppose, seeing as the Star Wars saga is equivalent to E.E. "Doc" Smith space opera of the same vintage. (2001 and The Lathe of Heaven are not representative, and neither had the same kind of popularity.) But, then, Leinster was more creative even back then (his aliens were carnivorous plants), knew something about science (he used relativity correctly), and went on to better things (``First Contact,'' written in 1945, is still the classic story of its kind). I doubt we can expect the same of the perpretrators of V. What really annoyed me was the blatant lift of the beginning of ``Space Nazis'' from Childhood's End. In service of the drivel that followed. I hope Arthur C. Clark sues them for plagiarism, not to mention fraud. -- John Quarterman, CS Dept., University of Texas, Austin, Texas 78712 USA jsq@ut-sally.ARPA, jsq@ut-sally.UUCP, {ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!jsq