Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!csc From: csc@watmath.UUCP (Computer Sci Club) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: ET sex roles, request for clarification Message-ID: <7735@watmath.UUCP> Date: Sun, 13-May-84 14:41:13 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.7735 Posted: Sun May 13 14:41:13 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 14-May-84 00:21:39 EDT References: <191@bolton.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 31 Why is it that it is taken for granted that all observed gender differences other than the gross physical ones are assumed to be due entirely to social conditioning. The evidence is by no means clear on this subject. If a scientist were to do a study which tended to show there were structural differences between the sexes which helped to explain the domination of men in math and physics, this scientist would be immediately branded sexist. No matter if his research methods were impeccable. No matter if he judges his collegues and students soley on the basis of their work. He has come up with a conclusion which is philisophically wrong and thus cannot be valid. I am certian that there will be those who will attack me for saying men are inherently better at math than women. I have said no such thing nor do I hold this opinion. There is simply insufficient evidence to do so. However, I do not hold the opinion that the observed differences are due to "*training*". There is insufficient evidence to support this conclusion. A friend of mine (Tracy Tims sometime contributer to this forum) agrees, but says that if (repeat if! (emphasis mine)) such differences exist it would be a bad idea to prove this as society is unlikely to react to such information in a mature manner. I do not agree. The knowledge would in fact be dangerous knowledge, but dangerous knowledge should be faced not ignored. With regard to people equality does not imply identity. There are observed differnces between the sexes. Let us study these differences with open minds. William Hughes