Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!csc From: csc@watmath.UUCP (Computer Sci Club) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: sexual differences, environment Message-ID: <7786@watmath.UUCP> Date: Thu, 17-May-84 13:12:25 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.7786 Posted: Thu May 17 13:12:25 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 18-May-84 00:16:30 EDT References: <158@decwrl.UUCP>, <342@astrovax.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 39 Mario Vietri attacks my article on several grounds, my replies: I do not feel that there is no evidence one way or another but that there is insufficient evidence to draw a conclusion. This is an important distinction and one that has been missed by several people. Mario Vietri states that the question of what causes the observed differences in mathematical preformance between men and women is not answerable by scientific means. He produces no evidence for this conclusion. Assume that different hormone concentrations cause the brain to develop in different ways such that the male brain is better adapted to mathematical problems (an assumption for which there is absolutely no evidence and a hypothesis I do not find very likely), there is every reason to believe that such facts could be uncovered by scientific research. If the causes are purely social then the problem is much more difficult, but there is every reason to believe that strong evidence as to how some of the major factors operate is obtainable by scientific means. I agree that the problem is one of staggering complexity. I do not agree that solving it should not be attempted. In any case, as I have said before, whatever the results they should have no bearing on individuals. Judge a mathematician by the way that mathematician preforms mathematics; nothing more, nothing less. Mario Vietri states that the results of such a study could only be used to try and prove some type of "superiority". I agree that the results might be (incorrectly) used in such a manner (this is the immature attitude referred to in my original article). I do not feel that this is the only way such results could be used. If the difference turns out to be structural then we may have important insights into the working of the human brain. If the difference is social, a better understanding of the mechanisms involved would help in correcting them (with the very happy result of a dramatic increase in the number of top flight mathematicians). In any case the value of research for the sake of research has been proven many times in the past. William Hughes